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1. 왜, 유란시아 서는 레무리아, 아틀란티스, 내부 지구에 관해서 언급이 되질않았나요? 그것들이 존재하지않았나요, 아님 그들을 일부러 배제한 것인가요?
UB 는 오직 하늘나라 영역과 그의 영향을 얘기합니다. 만일 그 책이 다른 역사를 다룬다면 그것은 또 하나의 거대한 책이 될 것입니다. 그 책은 그 당시에 그런 역사를 다루지않으려 한 것이 최선이었습니다. 가브리엘 대천사는 UB 책의 2부를 위한 위원회를 갖고 있는데 거기에 그런 역사가 포함되어 있습니다. UB 책의 목적에는 인류가 상승의 여정을 가는 것을 이해시키는 것이 있습니다. 그래서 창조의 기본 설계를 먼저 알리려 하는 것입니다. 우리는 신에 대해 너무 적은 지식을 갖고 있는데 신이 인류에게 찾아온다는 수여 이야기가 그 책에 들어있습니다.
2. 천공은 아담과 이브 시대에 존재했나요? 셀던 나이들의 지구 이야기가 틀린 것인가요?
예 그것이 있었죠. 최근에 그것이 무너졌습니다. 아마도 8천년전 전쟁 동안이었지요. 그래서 그것들이 일부만 다뤄지고 뒤로 남겨졌지요. 최근에 논의된 바로는 땅거미가 질 때 하늘에 보이는 높은 대역 구름이 있는데 관련이 있습니다.
3. 나는 이해하기 어려운 것이 루시퍼, 사탄과 그 일당들이 반역사태 이래로 인류를 지배해온 렙틸리언이 됬다는 이야기 입니다.
루시퍼, 사탄은 렙틸리언이 되지않았습니다. 지구 위의 기록에 그런 혼동이 있다는 것을 알고 있습니다. 렙틸리언은 어떤 세계에서 진화를 한 종족인데 마치 인류가 지구에서 진화하는 것과 유사한 것입니다. 그것은 라노난덱 아들의 형태 (루시퍼나 사탄 같은 이는 아주 진화한 고차원의 존재였으며 우주행정에서 군주의 지위에 있던 고위 행정가였는데 그런 존재는 라노난덱 계급이라고 유란시어 서는 해설합니다) 가 아닙니다. 오리온 성좌에서 진화한 수많은 렙틸리언이 있습니다. 그들은 뜨겁고 건조한 환경에서 진화합니다. 그들의 일부는 아주 호전적인데 그런 면은 다른 종족에서도 볼 수있습니다. 오리온 좌의 렙틸리언은 대체로 문제를 많이 일으켜왔습니다. 그러나 많은 이들은 좋은 친구들입니다.
4. 플레야데스, 시리우스 인, 안드로메다 인들은 UB 천사들이거나 케루빔이거나 혹은 우리 현실과 다른 곳의 천사들로서 더 높은 현실에 거주하는 천사들이 아닌가요?
아니오, 그들은 행성 인류입니다. 천사가 아니예요. 그런데 그들이 지구행성을 방문하면 천사로 오인됩니다. 플레야데스 인과 시리우스 인은 완전히 인간입니다. 우리와 같은 몸의 형태인데 피부색이나 키, 시야 거리 같은 점들은 차이가 있습니다. 안드로메다 인은 기억하건데 최상의 존재인데 인류와 다른점은 매우 밝고 흰색 피부라 할수 잇습니다. 시리우스 인은 흰 머리칼에 푸른 피부를 하고 있지요. 어떤 종족이 우주적으로 될때는 종족이 섞이고 조금씩 변하게 되므로 지구의 혼혈 현상처럼 되는 것입니다.
5. 당신은 아마도 설명했던 것같은데, 유란시아 서에서 막달라 마리아에 관해 이야기하질 않는 이유가 무엇입니까?
그것은 이수 사난다와 마리아의 자손을 보호하기 위해서였죠. 실제로 자식이 하나 있었습니다.( 댄브라운 소설 다빈치코드에서 묘사된 것은 사실입니다) 또한 이수 사난다가 생존하게 되어서 인도로 갔고 거기서 부인을 두게되어 5명의 자손을 보는데 이는 지구행성에 육화가 많았음을 뜻합니다. 이런 일은 창조자 아들과 아보날 아들의 육화를 제외하고선 육화가 다뤄지지않은 이유인데요, 이 지구행성의 타락한 천사나 신에 대항한 종족들은 모든 육화한 후손을 살해하고 제거하려 했을 것입니다.
6. UB 에서 창조자 아들 CM 이 아기로 태어나고 그에게 예수라고 이름지어졌는데 나는 CM 과 이수 사난다를 구별하지 못하는데요, 그들이 동일한 위대한 영혼이 아닌가요?
그 이름은 실제는 예수 Jesus 가 아닙니다. 유란시아 서는 조슈아 벤 조셉이라고 말합니다. 그러나 사람들이 그 이름을 예수라 부르므로 그렇게 사용되고 있습니다. 그게 다예요. 창조자 아들 CM 은 그렇게 태어난 것이 아니고 태어난 이는 이수입니다. 창조자 아들의 대형 포톤에너지 형태는 인간 몸체에 점유되질 못합니다. 그랬다간 바로 몸이 증발해버리니까요. 나 같은 포톤에너지 형태도 높은 영역의 존재이기에 인간 몸체에 비집고 들어갈 수없습니다. 그래서 대신 링크 형태로 연결됩니다. 창조자 아들 CM 도 그당시에 이수에게 링크되어져 있었지요. 그래서 때때로 필요할 때 이수에게 연결됬습니다. 이수의 죽음후 무덤이 열렸을 때 마리아가 보았던 예수는 사실은 CM 이었습니다. 이수는 이미 떠났던 것입니다. 오순절이 오기까지 40일동안 어떤 곳에선 CM 이 현시됬고 어떤 곳은 이수가 현시했습니다. (이하의 번역은 생략합니다, 예수의 활동에 관해서는 유란시아 서 4장에 자세히 나옵니다. 이는 신약성경의 복음서 내용과 잘 대비됩니다. )
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Hi Fabio, what a lovely letter, which I read to Christ Michael, and he had a nice chuckle over the Indiana Jones comment! He sends you a big hug! OK, on the questions, I copied them here to answer.
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> 1- Why on UB it's not told about Lemuria, Atlantis and Inner Earth? Didn't they never exist or... why they were consciously set aside?
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> The UB only covers the realm of heaven and it's influence. If if also covered all this other history, it would take at least another large book, and it was thought best to not cover it at the time. Gabriel has commission a UB part 2, which will include such history. It was thought better to help people undertand the ascension journey and the basic structure of the creation first. We have so little true knowledge of God. And of course the bestowal story needed to be added to it, which it was.
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> > 2- Did the firmaments exist at Adam&Eve times? Is Sheldan Nidle's Earth story wrong?
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> The UB only covers the realm of heaven and it's influence. If if also covered all this other history, it would take at least another large book, and it was thought best to not cover it at the time. Gabriel has commission a UB part 2, which will include such history. It was thought better to help people undertand the ascension journey and the basic structure of the creation first. We have so little true knowledge of God. And of course the bestowal story needed to be added to it, which it was.
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> > 2- Did the firmaments exist at Adam&Eve times? Is Sheldan Nidle's Earth story wrong?
Yes they did, the came down more recently, maybe 8000 years ago, as an act of war. So they will be put back up which we have covered a little bit, they already which I think I discussed a littel recently about those very high clouds of sorts seen at dusk. I am tired this afternoon, can't remember the name of them.
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> > 3- I don't understand in what way Lucifer, Satan & co. became the reptilians who controlled us since the rebellion.
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> Lucifer and Satan did not become the reptilians. There is much confusion I agree in earth literature. Reptilians are forms that develop on certain types of worlds, just like this form developed here. They are not the form of the Lanonandek Sons. There were a lot of reptilians that developed in Orion. They typically develop on hotter dryer worlds. Some of these did become very warlike, but so do some other races. The reptilians that developed in Orion, as a whole have been very troublesome but many are just fine folks.
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> > 3- I don't understand in what way Lucifer, Satan & co. became the reptilians who controlled us since the rebellion.
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> Lucifer and Satan did not become the reptilians. There is much confusion I agree in earth literature. Reptilians are forms that develop on certain types of worlds, just like this form developed here. They are not the form of the Lanonandek Sons. There were a lot of reptilians that developed in Orion. They typically develop on hotter dryer worlds. Some of these did become very warlike, but so do some other races. The reptilians that developed in Orion, as a whole have been very troublesome but many are just fine folks.
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> > 4- Our Star Brothers like Pleiadians, Sirians, Andromedans are the UB angels and cherubins or they are beings who are different from angels living only a life like us but in a better reality than us?
No, these are planetary races, not angels. But confused as angels when they visit earth. Most Pleiadians and Sirians are completely human as to body type, just like us, but maybe with minor differences in colors, heights, finder lengths etc. The andromedans are to the beste of remembering while a type, human but a little different, very light skinned, almost white. I think the Sirians tend to be blue skinned with white hair. Since races once they become cosmic, often mingle and change things around a bit, just as races are blending here on earth with intermarriage.
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> > 5- Maybe you already explained this but I don't remember why in UB it's not told about Mary Magdalene.
> > 5- Maybe you already explained this but I don't remember why in UB it's not told about Mary Magdalene.
To protect the progeny of Mary and Esu.
Actually there was just one, but also it is not told of Esu surviving and going on to India, where he married another woman and they had five children. There were many incarnating into the planet, which is why incarnation is not covered except that of the Creator Sons, and Avonals. The thugs on this planet, whether from the fallen angel group or other races that are anti God, killed all progeny and descentdants as they are discovered.
Actually there was just one, but also it is not told of Esu surviving and going on to India, where he married another woman and they had five children. There were many incarnating into the planet, which is why incarnation is not covered except that of the Creator Sons, and Avonals. The thugs on this planet, whether from the fallen angel group or other races that are anti God, killed all progeny and descentdants as they are discovered.
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> > 6- In UB it was CM who born in a child and the name given to that child was Jesus. So I don't understand the difference between CM and Esu. Isn't it the same great spirit?
The name was not Jesus. UB says Joshua ben Joseph I believe. But the people use the word Jesus, so it is used so people can identify. That is all. And he wasn't so truly born, it was more Esu that was born, as the large photon form on a Creator Son cannot occupy a human body, it would evaporate!
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> Even with those of us of the higher realms with photon forms, like me, cannot actually squeeze into a body of this type here, we have a linkage instead, and this was also true of CM at that time.The linkage with Esu, thus allow him to be away from Esu at times to do work elsewhere around this planet as needed. It was CM that was seen by the Mary's on the day the tomb was opened. Esu had already left. Some of the sightings were CM and Some were Esu during those 40 days until pentacost. The Mary's at the tomb, actually thought the personage was Gabriel, not "Jesus." BEcause CM was using his real form, but he took on some form so he looked like he did before the death that of cource you know now did not happen. CM merely ended his role at that time to take on the morontial experiences etc, required of him as he climbed the ladder so to speak back to the central universe which is a requirment of the bestowal.
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> When you attempt to bring truth into a planet like this one, you have to sometimes use the stories, even though not fully correct, that have become myth, in order for the information to be accepted, so some of the material especially around CM and Esu experience has to be modifoed enough to find acceptance, and even with what was done in that regard, the story is still hugely rejected by Christians who pick up the UB. Some of them, it's ok, but others will NOT look, because some of it differs from what they have been raised with. In fact, with the knowledge the UB was being prepared, thugs in Christianity went to work to make sure it would be rejected!
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> MOST people, not just Christians do not like "heaven" as presented in the UB. But in fact on these architectural worlds, is where cosmic life really flowers. They are not just study halls.This is true cosmic life, well beyond that of the evolutionary worlds. There is lots of journey and discovery to other architectrual worlds not only in Nebadon but to other universes also. Here is a link to a painting by the artist Jess introduced us too, the building of some architectural worlds. Much of that man's art is not from evolutionary worlds, but from the higher custom made worlds. http://antifan-real.deviantart.com/art/SP-Mech-world-construction-60736241 I still have to put up the link to that work. Maybe today, I had forgotten for a time. This man's memory is huge thru his art of "heaven".
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> But it was meant to appeal at least some to Christianity, since that was the dominant religion in much of the world and in the United States, which has been the initial place of information and the hope of this world. Of course that failed, but it was the hope. That is why there was so much support from Germain in getting our constitution approved.
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> There are only so many details you can present to various races when it comes to education, and the ONLY reason we have the UB in the first place, is because of CM's planned return to the planet! I assume it would be appropriate for the bestowal world at some point anyway, as all the Creator Sons take their bestowal worlds under their wings so to speak, retain a personal interest in those special worlds.
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> MOST people, not just Christians do not like "heaven" as presented in the UB. But in fact on these architectural worlds, is where cosmic life really flowers. They are not just study halls.This is true cosmic life, well beyond that of the evolutionary worlds. There is lots of journey and discovery to other architectrual worlds not only in Nebadon but to other universes also. Here is a link to a painting by the artist Jess introduced us too, the building of some architectural worlds. Much of that man's art is not from evolutionary worlds, but from the higher custom made worlds. http://antifan-real.deviantart.com/art/SP-Mech-world-construction-60736241 I still have to put up the link to that work. Maybe today, I had forgotten for a time. This man's memory is huge thru his art of "heaven".
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> But it was meant to appeal at least some to Christianity, since that was the dominant religion in much of the world and in the United States, which has been the initial place of information and the hope of this world. Of course that failed, but it was the hope. That is why there was so much support from Germain in getting our constitution approved.
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> There are only so many details you can present to various races when it comes to education, and the ONLY reason we have the UB in the first place, is because of CM's planned return to the planet! I assume it would be appropriate for the bestowal world at some point anyway, as all the Creator Sons take their bestowal worlds under their wings so to speak, retain a personal interest in those special worlds.
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